Is this a Berliner or Crapophone??

[flashpanblue]

It has the look of a put together machine??? What do you guys think?
Pete

[Jerry B.]

I've seen that type of tone arm on a Canadian Berliner. I think it's the real deal. Jerry

[gramophone78]

It is a Canadian Berliner "H" with the early style "flip up" arm. Original from what I can see except the horn and reproducer. This horn has "Victor Talking Machine"(see pic). The correct horn will have "Berliner Gramophone". There should be (and is) a lock screw in the front of the back bracket horn elbow hole. Very unique for this model. I have had two of these. One came with a "HUGE" 24" black flower Berliner horn!!!. The asking price is a retail price in my opinion. In fact, high with the wrong horn and reproducer (you will never find easy).....in my opinion.
Pete, you may want to show all pics (if available) when looking for proper info.

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[gramophone78]

I thought I would add two pics that show what the horn decal should look like and the "Automatic Grand" reproducer. This large Berliner reproducer has a very attractive red with silver print paper insert. It also has a nice HMV logo inside. Note....these AG's are very difficult to find is good condition and with the paper insert. They were made of a cheap smelter material and tend to crumble.

[soundgen]

What a nice original machine !