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I'm thinking of buying a Cygnet or a Music Master and don't know which is best or how much better they are than a Morning glory.
I would be grateful for any opinions on this matter.
Gordon.

I guess you want a Music Master cygnet horn? wood horns were just cosmetic so go for what you prefer and what fits your budget.

This might help:
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =9&t=13269
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... 048#p82048

Ultimately, the horn will be in your own home. So, it really is a "personal taste" decision on your part if you want a "wood or Metal" bell. Wood will cost you much more. If you are unable to find one in the UK.....you will pay a lot for shipping from North America.

By "better", do you mean performance or appearance? What Edison model needs the horn? Jerry

Hi Gordon,
How about giving us a picture of your Triumph machine so we can have a look. Does it already have the back bracket holes drilled in the rear panel? It would be less expensive to go with a straight horn if the cabinet is not already drilled. The other option is the #11 metal cygnet horn. It looks real nice on a Triumph and will cost you less than a wood one. Here are a few pictures of my Triumphs for comparison.
Pete

Hi Jerry and Pete,
What I mean is quality of sound, I prefer the look of the Music Master but I live in a very small house so I also wonder if it's going to look stupid. Like gramophone78 said another thing to think about is the cost of shipping and import tax. You can't seem to buy just a Cygnet horn without a phonograph over here. My wife spoke to Don[ Sights and sounds of Edison ]and he was very helpful, he's getting back to me on the shipping cost on one of his beautiful horns. Anyway here's some pic's I did put some on here when I finished doing it up a while ago. Thanks for the pic's Pete your machines look outstanding and it does give me an idea what mine would look like.
Gordon

Hi Gordon,
I think the deciding factor is whether the holes are already drilled in the back of the case. If not I would be reluctant to drill them, but that is your choice. Here is a picture of my model A with a #11 cygnet horn. I do not find any difference in the sound quality between the wood and metal cygnets.
Pete

Hi Pete, That looks right, I think if I can get one it will be a metal Cygnet. The holes for the bracket are there already. Gordon

Your Triumph appears to be a two minute player. Personally, it has always seemed odd when a two minute machine has a Cygnet horn. I doubt if any original owner would spend a significant amount of money for a horn and crane without taking advantage of the promotional offer of the 2&4 combination parts and Special cylinders to really upgrade their machine. If I owned your Triumph I would buy a really attractive after market flowered morning glory horn. Such a horn would look terrific, sound great, and be appropriate for a two minute machine. The possibilities are nearly endless.
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Has anyone ever found a two minute player in the wild (before being owned by a collector) that had a Cygnet horn? In forty plus years of collecting I have not seen one.
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Jerry Blais

Jerry B. wrote: Has anyone ever found a two minute player in the wild (before being owned by a collector) that had a Cygnet horn? In forty plus years of collecting I have not seen one.
Jerry Blais

I've never encountered one either.

George P.