Self Winding Motor
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Self Winding Motor
We have heard of self winding watches, I am wondering if anyone has seen a motor that self winds, I think it is possible, a gear could be winding the springs as it plays for continued power. Just wondering if this was ever done.
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Re: Self Winding Motor
NO ! Perpetual motion you have invented just and exists it not ! Watches wind because the wearer moves and a weight moves as the` wearer moves , Winding Thus !
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Re: Self Winding Motor
could we put a small one on our wrist to self wind?
Just kiding i have several self winding watches and you can feel the movement of the weight when you move your wrist around. I believe the motor on the machine would wind the other until they equalized then it would stop so no gain just a pain
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Re: Self Winding Motor
Victrolacollector wrote:We have heard of self winding watches, I am wondering if anyone has seen a motor that self winds, I think it is possible, a gear could be winding the springs as it plays for continued power. Just wondering if this was ever done.
Actually something like this was created back in the 17th-18ths centuries to help get watches and clocks to run more consistently...
Google "fusee`"...
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BUT you still need to wind a fusee movement , NO ? Nothing in nothing out !De Soto Frank wrote:Victrolacollector wrote:We have heard of self winding watches, I am wondering if anyone has seen a motor that self winds, I think it is possible, a gear could be winding the springs as it plays for continued power. Just wondering if this was ever done.
Actually something like this was created back in the 17th-18ths centuries to help get watches and clocks to run more consistently...
Google "fusee`"...
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Re: Self Winding Motor
maybe a system like in the Lecoultre Atmos clocks? I doubt it would be powerful enough for phonograph applications unless afeatherlight electric pick-up is used?
anyways it would be extremely expensive to build and quite useless.
anyways it would be extremely expensive to build and quite useless.

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Re: Self Winding Motor
soundgen wrote:BUT you still need to wind a fusee movement , NO ? Nothing in nothing out !De Soto Frank wrote:Victrolacollector wrote:We have heard of self winding watches, I am wondering if anyone has seen a motor that self winds, I think it is possible, a gear could be winding the springs as it plays for continued power. Just wondering if this was ever done.
Actually something like this was created back in the 17th-18ths centuries to help get watches and clocks to run more consistently...
Google "fusee`"...
True. Just suggesting that historically, there was a device that somewhat embraced this premise.
You are correct, Soundgen, they all require some sort of energy input to get things rolling.
The problem of using the running machine to wind its own / another spring is that eventually, it will achieve a balance between the two, and there will be no more transfer of energy, eg: everything comes to a halt.
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Re: Self Winding Motor
It is possible to wind a clock using changes in atmospheric pressure, but that is only possible because a clock runs very slowly (1 RPM) and that motor does very little work.
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Re: Self Winding Motor
yes you do I have a fusee pocket watch it has a chain drive other than that same has a regular movement except for a second hand but I haven't looked at it in a while I use to collect watchessoundgen wrote:BUT you still need to wind a fusee movement , NO ? Nothing in nothing out !De Soto Frank wrote:Victrolacollector wrote:We have heard of self winding watches, I am wondering if anyone has seen a motor that self winds, I think it is possible, a gear could be winding the springs as it plays for continued power. Just wondering if this was ever done.
Actually something like this was created back in the 17th-18ths centuries to help get watches and clocks to run more consistently...
Google "fusee`"...
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