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Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 11:17 pm
by Lucius1958
While checking out a link on another topic, I noticed this video of a weight-driven Frankenphone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9hdvheqTFs

Pretty clever - but will it play a 12 inch record?

Bill

PS: for some reason it won't let me embed it...

Re: Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:26 pm
by ImperialGuardsman
Lucius1958 wrote:While checking out a link on another topic, I noticed this video of a weight-driven Frankenphone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9hdvheqTFs

Pretty clever - but will it play a 12 inch record?

Bill

PS: for some reason it won't let me embed it...
I couldn't actually see the weight system myself, but it sure sounds like a cool idea.

Re: Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:44 am
by estott
That's a spring motor

Re: Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:02 pm
by howardpgh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONwP2BmYYDE
This one is weight driven. The Grandmother Phonograph.
Looks like a Victor motor in it with a weight instead of the springs driving it. Very cool.

Re: Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:03 pm
by bbphonoguy
I'm pretty sure I saw an ad from the 1880's featuring weight driven phonographs. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Re: Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:25 pm
by phonogfp
bbphonoguy wrote:I'm pretty sure I saw an ad from the 1880's featuring weight driven phonographs. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
Yes. In January 1878, Augustus Stroh was commissioned to build an Edison-type tinfoil phonograph. The following month, he demonstrated a sophisticated weight-driven tinfoil model, which still survives in private hands and is pictured in Discovering Antique Phonographs.

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =9&t=15832

Stroh also designed a more refined weight-driven tinfoil phonograph which was marketed by the London Stereoscopic Company in the 1880s. An example of one of these machines is also shown in Discovering Antique Phonographs. :)

George P.

Re: Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:23 pm
by Joe_DS
bbphonoguy wrote:I'm pretty sure I saw an ad from the 1880's featuring weight driven phonographs. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

The Lioret Phonograph also was fitted with a pull-weight motor, some ten years later -- http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agna ... ioret3.htm

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Hi Lucius:

If you maximize the video to full screen, you can just make out the shadow of the spring barrel. You might also have to lighten the resolution of your monitor to see it.

As for not embedding the video, that's because it's the new "https" format. You could try removing the "s"--just start it with "http" to see if it will show up.

Joe

Re: Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:58 pm
by phonogfp
Joe_DS wrote: The Lioret Phonograph also was fitted with a pull-weight motor, some ten years later -- http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agna ... ioret3.htm
That one has a full-page photo on page 60 of the same book! ;)

George P.

Re: Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:40 pm
by Lucius1958
Ah, I see what happened... :oops:

Somehow the wrong link got in there… Howard has the right link.

Bill

Re: Mainsprings? We Don't Need No Stinkin' Mainsprings...

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:08 am
by FloridaClay
howardpgh wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONwP2BmYYDE
This one is weight driven. The Grandmother Phonograph.
Looks like a Victor motor in it with a weight instead of the springs driving it. Very cool.
:lol: Somebody had WAY too much time on their hands, but I love it! And nice craftsmanship.

Clay