Berliner lever wind

Victrolaboy · Post by **Victrolaboy** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 5:58 pm

Berliner lever wind on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 1376502923 Does anyone know who is selling it?
-Nick

Post by **gramophone78** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:50 pm

Victrolaboy wrote:Berliner lever wind on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 1376502923 Does anyone know who is selling it?
-Nick

phonocrazy is selling it.....

. Contact him if you need to know his real name..

.

Tpapp54321 · Post by **Tpapp54321** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:25 pm

Did the lever wind Berliners come before or after the crank style? And what made them change to crank style, wouldn't it be better to have the levers when you have a machine close to a wall?
-Tom

phonogfp · Post by **phonogfp** » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:37 pm

The lever winds were the first spring-driven Berliners. A metal "can" model mounted on a wooden baseboard was introduced in Nov/Dec 1896 and supplanted by a wooden cabinet model (like the eBay example) in Mar/April 1897. The motors for the lever wind Berliners were designed and patented by Levi Montross. By August 1897, Eldridge Johnson applied for a U.S. Patent for the motor (with vertical crank) that would power the Improved Gramophone (often called the "Trade Mark Model" by collectors) until 1901.

The convenience of lever vs. crank was probably not considered. At that point, developing a spring motor that would play a disc record steadily for 2-3 minutes was challenge enough.

George P.

Tpapp54321 · Post by **Tpapp54321** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:41 pm

Thank you

-Tom

phonogfp · Post by **phonogfp** » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:26 pm

You're very welcome!

George P.

TinfoilPhono · Post by **TinfoilPhono** » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:03 pm

As a side note, and as is mentioned in the eBay listing, that is a very early version of the wood-cased lever-wind, with no on/off lever. It shuts off by sliding the speed control on the back side all the way to stop the governor. Fairly soon after introduction they added a lever with an eccentric disc to rub against the turntable as a more convenient shut off. Around the same time they added a small metal support in the front corner to support the reproducer.

The motor in the lever-wind is very usual, with hanging governor weights that are held with a spring:

Cody K · Post by **Cody K** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:56 pm

Aaaand the hammer came down at $11,100. Wonderful machine!

Post by **rgordon939** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:19 pm

Victrolaboy wrote:Berliner lever wind on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.vi ... 1376502923 Does anyone know who is selling it?
-Nick

The machine was from Gene Manno's collection.

Rich Gordon

miker2001 · Post by **miker2001** » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:33 pm

The $21 shipping was a deal breaker for me!

Actually, someone retracted their bid. They must have gotten a little nervous.

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