Dodge Brothers on Emerson
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Dodge Brothers on Emerson
Before their death, The Dodge Brothers had 2 records made----a double sided and a single sided.  Have the doubled sided and just got the single sided. A happy addition to The Emerson Collection.
			
			
									
									
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Re: Dodge Brothers on Emerson
Hello emerson:
Being a Dodge brothers fan and collector, I was only aware of one record, and that was issued after the second brother, Horace, died less than a year after his brother John. It was a rendition of the Dodge Brothers March, played by the company's industrial band, written by Victor Herbert to commemorate the deaths, with a recitation of an eulogy that was published in one of the Detroit newspapers on the other side. Also on Emerson. I was unaware of another record. Would you please post the title, performer, and matrix or catalog number for posterity?
Thanks for this additional information. I will forward it to Dodge Brothers historians for their edification.
John
			
			
									
									
						Being a Dodge brothers fan and collector, I was only aware of one record, and that was issued after the second brother, Horace, died less than a year after his brother John. It was a rendition of the Dodge Brothers March, played by the company's industrial band, written by Victor Herbert to commemorate the deaths, with a recitation of an eulogy that was published in one of the Detroit newspapers on the other side. Also on Emerson. I was unaware of another record. Would you please post the title, performer, and matrix or catalog number for posterity?
Thanks for this additional information. I will forward it to Dodge Brothers historians for their edification.
John
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Re: Dodge Brothers on Emerson
Hello John,  So what year or should I say years Dodge do you have? I worked with a guy back around 1980? who had a  1926,27,or 28 Dodge---I don't remember for sure, his name is Ed Bankel, New Jersey---think that is it. If you have a Dodge directory, you can see if he still has it. I am left with a car and enough parts to build another---1925 Nash----if you go to the Nash club site and look at the photos by year, mine is the 1925 model 164. Let me get back to your question----go to Nauck auction 57 on page 15,  # 998 and 999 are both records, I won 999 wanted 998 as a double---but somebody wanted it more then I---I am very happy to of gotten the single-sided record. Kurt Nauck gives a little bit of info on the records. Let me know how I can be of any more help---I will get the matrix numbers for you----anything else?   ---Herb
			
			
									
									
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Re: Dodge Brothers on Emerson
HEY:
You have Emerson mx 544/545, issued in December 1920 after the death of Horace Dodge. It's the eulogy and the Dodge Brothers March. The one-sided issue, 545 is only the march, which I did not know existed as a single-sided record. I also understand there was a 10-inch and 12-inch issue of this but I tend to doubt the 12-inch report as it came from someone possibly not totally reliable.
Incidentally another Ohio boy bought the band arrangement scores for this march and has the town's county-fair band play it regularly -- with vocal. Even though it is a Victor Herbert composition, it was not one of his best. The factory band is not all that bad, however, given that they were all amateurs who worked at the factory.
I have three piano rolls of the march, one original, one of a contemporary pianist playing a new arrangement, and one especially arranged by a man in the Bingamton NY area (Harvey Roehl??) to play on his Gavioli band organ. This man has passed on. He had a museum of mechanical music machines, none too well restored. I recall his playing an unrestored talking machine without changing the needle and with an old case-hardened soundbox, and laughing with the audience about how crude music reproduction was "back then."
Your old contact is not listed with the Dodge Brothers Club, but the club's listings are not at all complete.
I have 1928 Dodge Brothers Victory Six cars, nearly one of each body style offered in that model. I have a photo posted in the "what else do you collect" (or similar) thread on this forum.
John
			
			
									
									
						You have Emerson mx 544/545, issued in December 1920 after the death of Horace Dodge. It's the eulogy and the Dodge Brothers March. The one-sided issue, 545 is only the march, which I did not know existed as a single-sided record. I also understand there was a 10-inch and 12-inch issue of this but I tend to doubt the 12-inch report as it came from someone possibly not totally reliable.
Incidentally another Ohio boy bought the band arrangement scores for this march and has the town's county-fair band play it regularly -- with vocal. Even though it is a Victor Herbert composition, it was not one of his best. The factory band is not all that bad, however, given that they were all amateurs who worked at the factory.
I have three piano rolls of the march, one original, one of a contemporary pianist playing a new arrangement, and one especially arranged by a man in the Bingamton NY area (Harvey Roehl??) to play on his Gavioli band organ. This man has passed on. He had a museum of mechanical music machines, none too well restored. I recall his playing an unrestored talking machine without changing the needle and with an old case-hardened soundbox, and laughing with the audience about how crude music reproduction was "back then."
Your old contact is not listed with the Dodge Brothers Club, but the club's listings are not at all complete.
I have 1928 Dodge Brothers Victory Six cars, nearly one of each body style offered in that model. I have a photo posted in the "what else do you collect" (or similar) thread on this forum.
John
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Re: Dodge Brothers on Emerson
For those with a copy of Antique Phonograph Advertising, the double-sided Emerson record of "Brothers" and "The Dodge Brothers March" is pictured on page 168, along with a transcription of the former.  
 
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Re: Dodge Brothers on Emerson
Hello George P.,  Thanks for the info., I am amazed at your amount of knowledge on so many subjects----I see you offering to other  Phono/Record collectors. Good people do Good things----looks like you are a Good person---Thanks Again.
			
			
									
									
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Re: Dodge Brothers on Emerson
Wow... That's very kind of you, but hardly deserved on my part. I'm a student like everyone else...perhaps a bit more obsessive than most and been at it a bit longer than most. Like everyone else, I started off totally ignorant of the field, and some nice people helped me from time to time along the way. I'm just trying to follow that pattern, like many others on this forum.emerson wrote:Hello George P., Thanks for the info., I am amazed at your amount of knowledge on so many subjects----I see you offering to other Phono/Record collectors. Good people do Good things----looks like you are a Good person---Thanks Again.
 
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Re: Dodge Brothers on Emerson
YES. The 12-inch version does exist. I just checked with my original  source of this information. He says that the band runs through the second and third strains of the march one additional time for the extra one minute of performance. But we both wonder what was added to the "Brothers" recitation as it appears as if the entire newspaper eulogy was covered on the 10-inch version.
That "Brothers" eulogy is quite a tear-jerker, I imagine even to those who are not so interested in Dodge Brothers history.
Now I need to find one for myself.
John
			
			
									
									
						That "Brothers" eulogy is quite a tear-jerker, I imagine even to those who are not so interested in Dodge Brothers history.
Now I need to find one for myself.
John
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