SOLD: Edison EDISONIC Bronze Gun Metal Reproducer - $185

[FellowCollector]

Plays Loud, Crisp, Clear. Ready to install and enjoy on your Edison Diamond Disc Phonograph. Payment by PayPal only. Listen to your Edison Diamond Discs the way they were intended to be played and enjoyed. Shipping cost is $10 to any USA address. International will be actual US Postal shipping cost based on your address. Packed meticulously. Shipped promptly after receiving payment.

[Phonofreak]

When did these reproducers come out? Also, what is the difference between the Edisonic and Dance reproducers? Because of the heavier weight, can they cause record wear?
Harvey Kravitz

[FellowCollector]

When did these reproducers come out? Also, what is the difference between the Edisonic and Dance reproducers? Because of the heavier weight, can they cause record wear?
Harvey Kravitz

Hi Harvey, The New Standard Reproducer was introduced in March 1927. It was later referred to as the Edisonic Reproducer beginning in January 1929. The New Standard and Edisonic repoducers had a heavier weight and many had a spring loaded stylus bar which helped track the Edison record groove better than the earlier Standard reproducers.

The Edison Dance reproducer featured a curious looking mounting flange on top of the reproducer "cup" and the diaphragm was spring loaded. I have several Dance reproducers and several Edisonic reproducers and I find zero difference in sound quality or volume.

Contrary to some critics, the Edisonic and Dance Reproducers do not cause additional wear on the record groove presuming the diamond stylus is excellent and the reproducer / phonograph have been adjusted properly so that the stylus meets the record groove correctly and the record being played is in excellent playing condition.

The heavier weight on the Edisonic and Dance Reproducer definitely provides more volume from the record grooves although a well adjusted Standard Reproducer with a Bob Waltrip diaphragm (the only diaphragm I have tried other than Edison originals) will come rather close to the volume and crispness of the Edisonic and Dance reproducer volume and crispness.

This particular Edisonic reproducer plays beautifully and it's hard to believe it hasn't sold at this price.

Doug

[Valecnik]

When did these reproducers come out? Also, what is the difference between the Edisonic and Dance reproducers? Because of the heavier weight, can they cause record wear?
Harvey Kravitz

I think logically they do cause some additional record wear. Also both are less tolerant to warped or un-level records. The limit loop & pin combination are not as free moving. Some more info in these threads.

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... e+valecnik

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... ik#p116300

[Phonofreak]

Thanks for the info. One more question: Were these reproducers marked with Dance or Edisonic on them?
Harvey Kravitz

[FellowCollector]

Thanks for the info. One more question: Were these reproducers marked with Dance or Edisonic on them?
Harvey Kravitz

Hi Harvey, No. But the difference in physical appearance is dramatic and very easily noticed between the two. You can see the Edisonic reproducer here in my thread. Below is an Edison Dance Reproducer borrowed from the 'net since I'm too lazy to grab one of mine and snap a picture You can immediately see the extra flange on top of the "cup".

For what it's worth, I have never observed any additional play wear on any of my Edison Diamond Discs using any of my Edisonic Reproducers or Dance Reproducers versus my standard issue Edison Diamond Disc reproducers. They're wonderful for listening, particularly if you enjoy a little more volume like I do.

Doug

[Valecnik]

Thanks for the info. One more question: Were these reproducers marked with Dance or Edisonic on them?
Harvey Kravitz

Hi Harvey, No. But the difference in physical appearance is dramatic and very easily noticed between the two. You can see the Edisonic reproducer here in my thread. Below is an Edison Dance Reproducer borrowed from the 'net since I'm too lazy to grab one of mine and snap a picture You can immediately see the extra flange on top of the "cup".

For what it's worth, I have never observed any additional play wear on any of my Edison Diamond Discs using any of my Edisonic Reproducers or Dance Reproducers versus my standard issue Edison Diamond Disc reproducers. They're wonderful for listening, particularly if you enjoy a little more volume like I do.

Doug

They would not be marked "Edisonic" but they should have a special serial number acc. to Steve Medved.


LGxxxx is long play LonG
EMxxxx is Standard one with Duncan stop Electric Model
LDxxxxx is the Dance Loud Dance
NSxxxx stands for New Standard or Edisonic

Then there were also standard reproducers converted to Edisonics at the factory. They would have the original serial number like Exxxxxx (the original number) converted to Exxxxxx NS (denoting the conversion).

Hope that's not too confusing!

[Tpapp54321]

I just got my Edison Dance rebuilt my Steven Medved and I really love mine. I notice much more detail on symphonic music and the heavier weight really gives dance records a deep righ sound that the standard reproducer just don't have. Also as long as the stylus' are good on these they don't cause as much record wear as I've heard. Actually I've noticed no more record wear then both of my rebuilt standard reproducers. I would highly recommend one of these reproducers to anyone with a diamond disc machine, whenever I want to really deeply listen to a record I just switch out reproducers and enjoy. If I hadn't just spent all of my money on buying a Dance and getting it rebuilt I would be buying this Edisonic right now.
-Tom

[Lucius1958]

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[Mpellicano]

Thanks for the info. One more question: Were these reproducers marked with Dance or Edisonic on them?
Harvey Kravitz

Hi Harvey, No. But the difference in physical appearance is dramatic and very easily noticed between the two. You can see the Edisonic reproducer here in my thread. Below is an Edison Dance Reproducer borrowed from the 'net since I'm too lazy to grab one of mine and snap a picture You can immediately see the extra flange on top of the "cup".

For what it's worth, I have never observed any additional play wear on any of my Edison Diamond Discs using any of my Edisonic Reproducers or Dance Reproducers versus my standard issue Edison Diamond Disc reproducers. They're wonderful for listening, particularly if you enjoy a little more volume like I do.

Doug

They would not be marked "Edisonic" but they should have a special serial number acc. to Steve Medved.


LGxxxx is long play LonG
EMxxxx is Standard one with Duncan stop Electric Model
LDxxxxx is the Dance Loud Dance
NSxxxx stands for New Standard or Edisonic

Then there were also standard reproducers converted to Edisonics at the factory. They would have the original serial number like Exxxxxx (the original number) converted to Exxxxxx NS (denoting the conversion).

Hope that's not too confusing!

I have a W19 with an Edisonic reproducer. Thanks to you, I now know it is a factory converted one. The part that hold the thread is dragging on the record and causing damage. Do you have a fix for this? Do you know the production year range of the W19?