Play a Dia D on a Victor with the appro. adapter or stylus

[A Ford 1]

Hi all,
I was speaking to a fellow collector about how one might play a Diamond Disc on a Victor Orthophonic. He said he had a reproducer and or adapter that he would have to dig out that could be used on the earlier Victors. I did not know that such an adapter reproducer had been made in the past but it seems logical.
My thought was to have an L shaped rod with a diamond stylus mounted on the end of the short or bottom leg of the L and install this in place of the needle. It would also be desirable to have the reproducer rotated CCW so that the L was perpendicular to the record surface.
Food for thought and thank you all kindly for your input,
Allen

[52089]

Search the board for "vicsonia" for an example of what you're talking about.

[Oceangoer1]

Benjamin J the Victrola Guy on YouTube made an adapter from a Cheney reproducer ( and several other reproducers, but this one seems to be the most practical ). I have the parts to make one, I just need to put new gaskets in the reproducer.

[chrisg]

IMHO I would think any adapter would damage a diamond disk. the reproducer on a diamond disk is gear driven across the record. and all other machines the stylus would rub the sides of the record grooves to move the reproducer across the record, thus wearing the record ( just my simple thought )

[bigshot]

I have a Vicsonia reproducer. It does a very poor job of playing diamond disks. Better to get a dedicated Edison machine.

[Phonofreak]

I have a Visconia reproducer that I use on my Victor II. It plays loud and clear. I wouldn't use it on a regular basis because this is driven by the grooves instead of a feedscrew like on the Diamond disks. You might want to check your stylus, pivot points, gaskets, diaphragm, and thread that connects the stylus bar to the diaphragm.
Harvey Kravitz

[wjw]

Enter "sanfranphono" in youtube and you can quickly find carsten fischer's experiment using the ortho diaphragm in an ultona head mated to a 10-50. I would post it here but I would be up all night trying. -Bill

[Victrolacollector]

I also have a Vicsonia that I bought here on the forum. I think it was in the 200.00 range. It works very good, as I use it on the VV-VI and VV-XI sometimes. I really wonder if the wear is noticeable, as the Vicsonia is a light reproducer. A Edison has a feedscrew but actually it drives the heavy horn and reproducer, but the weight really floats by the pull of the grooves as well (within the limit loop). One of the key issues is the length of the Victrola tone arm and the condition of the stylus.

On the other hand, playing laterals on a DD machine is also a challenge, most of the adapters are horrid, too short and wobbly and it will chew up records quick because of the offset. I have yet to find a good adapter (I heard Kent is the best).

I also have a Edison DD machine, so I do most of my serious listening of DD's on it. I do my other serious listening on the VV-XI tabletop.

Rod might have the other one still available, I know he had two, I bought the one. Here is the link.

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... ia#p136718

[A Ford 1]

Hi,
Will the Vicsonia work on an Ortophonic i.e. is the diameter a suitable match for the tone arm?
Thank you all,
Allen

[Oceangoer1]

Do the Edison Electric phonographs that play both lateral 78's and Diamond Discs have a feedscrew that drives the records? If they don't, then wouldn't an adapter on a Victor machine be the same concept?