Missing Parts?

[bangster]

The flange on the front of the pulley had a small leaf spring covering a hole, held in place by a screw. While I was trying to install it, it slipped out of my fingers and went into the 4th dimension, to keep company with the many disappeared clock parts, never to be seen again.

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I can make a replacement out of a piece of pocket watch mainspring. But I'd like to know what it's for. What's the little guy supposed to be doing?

The collar down next to the bearing has a setscrew, and also a sort of cutaway with a hole for a screw. It looks like something may be missing there (wasn't there when I got the machine.) What might it be?

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Thanks,
bangster

[VintageTechnologies]

If it was me, I'd put a fresh bag on the vacuum cleaner and go over the whole shop thoroughly. Then sift the contents of that bag. Harbor Freight sells really strong magnets.

[NEFaurora]

"It looks like something may be missing there (wasn't there when I got the machine.) What might it be?"

What you see there is what is left of the original Edison bearing. Someone shortened it by cutting it and drilled in a set screw where the original part of the metal sheath had been cut in order to take it out. Most people do not leave any part of the original Edison bearing intact as there is usually not much left of it once they try to remove it. To the right of what is left of the original Edison bearing is the new brass replacement bearing now in the place of where the original Edison bearing used to be. Whomever put the new brass bearing in the machine wanted to retain some of the original Edison bearing. I guess I have to give them kudos for even trying to save some part of it. Most people just get rid of the original bearing altogether and just use the new brass one by itself. It would appear that your machine has the best of both worlds now. I kinda like it, and I would just leave it alone and leave it be. It adds to the interesting history of the machine and does not detract from its value or its looks.

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Tony K.

Edison Collector/Restorer

[Dave D]

The curved leaf spring holds a small stud which is part of the 2/4 minute mechanism. You can get all the parts very reasonably from George Vollema. It really is not worth the trouble (in my opinion) to make that curved spring, since once can be bought for under $5. Just show George your pics and he will send you everything you need. When you get ready to put it all together, Dwayne Wyatt has excellent step-by-step insructions on His Muscial American website. He may even have the parts you need, but I usually deal with George, since he is so close to me hear in Michigan.

In summary, it looks like you are missing the stud (or detent pin), the curved spring, the set screw and the small bent part at the mandrel end of the feedscrew.
Dave D

[phonojim]

As Dave said, the curved spring holds a ball which latches into one of two side by side grooves in the mandrel shaft, thus holding the 2/4 minute shift ring in position. This is essential because without it the shift ring can slide and allow the feedscrew to stop turning.
The missing piece at the right end of the feedscrew is a small "L" shaped piece of metal. The long leg has a hole in it and is held into the flat on the collar by a small screw and the short leg rides in a groove cut near the right edge of the feedscrew, thus anchoring it to the collar and holding it in place. The setscrew in the collar is one of the points used for horizontal alignment of the feed mechanism and endplay of the mandrel and shaft.
Ron Sitko would also have all of the parts you need, possibly original or reproduction if needed.
Sorry for essentially repeating Dave's post - I guess I should learn to read everything before posting.

Jim

[bangster]

Thanks Tony, Dave, Jim. Got contact info for George Vollema? Druther buy the spring than make it.
I'll check the website.

While I've got your attention...

This spring is in the tray of parts removed from the machine. I have no recollection of where it came from or where it goes. Teach me not to take better notes. Can you tell me what to do with it?

bangster

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[bangster]

Found Wyatt and Vollema via Google. Thanks again.

Wyatt shows a pic of the parts of an Edison Home, which includes a thing called a Selector.

There is no such part on this machine. And I'm wondering how the shift from 2min to 4min is made. There's a lever next to "2-4" on the frame, but it's just a brake to stop the machine. So...?

[Dave D]

The selector you asked about is not for your machine. It is from an upgrade kit which was sold to update old two minute machines into 2/4 minute models. You just use your finger to move the right hand clutch "pulley" in or out, depending on the record being played. (On your machine, that is)

Dave D

[bangster]

AHA!! Thanks, Dave.

Still worried about that compression spring.

[Dave D]

The spring does not look familiar and I checked the parts listing and nothing is shown there. I believe it is just something that ended up there by mistake.
Dave