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Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 6:49 pm
by phonogal
This is interesting.eBay Item #152120069681

Re: Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:59 pm
by Steve Levi
Very interesting! I guess you would have to jury rig a horn in that elbow. Like the slide attachment. Thanks for posting. Steve

Re: Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:23 pm
by Phonoboy
I wonder how well it works?

Re: Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:52 pm
by Lucius1958
Steve Levi wrote:Very interesting! I guess you would have to jury rig a horn in that elbow. Like the slide attachment. Thanks for posting. Steve
I wonder whether a Victor horn would fit? It has the slot for the pin...

Bill

Re: Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:41 am
by ambrola
Hey Guys,
That gizmo is not right if it is what I think it is? That long piece don't even belong with it. I have a friend that has one of these, and it is meant to put a Victor Horn on a Edison. I have a picture somewhere, I'll try to find it. Here is one I was working on. Not a very good picture but you get the idea if it's the same gizmo. :?:
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Re: Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:50 am
by phonohound
Hi Amberola;

While I can't speak with authority on the Keen attachment mentioned in the original post, the one you are referring to is not the same. Your photo is of a Phon-Arm attachment, made by the Chicago Stand Company from 1907-1908. A person buying this attachment could have used a Victor horn, but most likely would have used an aftermarket horn which would give the buyer lots of color and design options instead of a typical black only or black and brass horn. This attachment was made for the Edison Standard, Home and Triumph. There were plans to make these for certain model Graphophones, but Columbia produced their own tonearm Graphophones around the same time.

Here is the link to my Featured Phonograph on this attachment. http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =2&t=21940

Scott

Re: Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:24 pm
by phonogal
As to how well this attachment might work, I would think that it would put extra stress on the feed screw and nut. But this is just a guess. Just thought it was an interesting piece of phono history. Jan

Re: Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:29 pm
by phonogal
As to how well this attachment might work, I would think that it would put extra stress on the feed screw and nut. But this is just a guess. Just thought it was an interesting piece of phono history. Looks like there is lots of interest in it though. Jan

Re: Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2016 7:46 pm
by ambrola
phonohound wrote:Hi Amberola;

While I can't speak with authority on the Keen attachment mentioned in the original post, the one you are referring to is not the same. Your photo is of a Phon-Arm attachment, made by the Chicago Stand Company from 1907-1908. A person buying this attachment could have used a Victor horn, but most likely would have used an aftermarket horn which would give the buyer lots of color and design options instead of a typical black only or black and brass horn. This attachment was made for the Edison Standard, Home and Triumph. There were plans to make these for certain model Graphophones, but Columbia produced their own tonearm Graphophones around the same time.

Here is the link to my Featured Phonograph on this attachment. http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =2&t=21940

Scott
Good catch Scot,
I wasn't sure but I wouldn't pay what it is at now? It just don't look right.

Re: Odd horn attachment on Ebay.

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:43 am
by phonohound
It looks odd that the short tonearm piece is facing to the left with a long tube connecting to another tube and then to the reproducer. What would be the purpose to extend the connection? It makes more sense to have a direct connection from the tonearm to the reproducer, like the Phon-arm. I did not find any patent info on this Keen attachment.