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Online retailer for Blue Amberol records?

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Other than eBay, is there an online source for Blue Amberol records that you like?
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CMcPherson wrote:Other than eBay, is there an online source for Blue Amberol records that you like?
Hmmm... did someone get an Edison for Christmas? What are you looking for on BA?
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Busted... :D
I found a Standard Model D from a local forum member for my son as a Christmas gift.
I'll do the majority of my listening enjoyment on my disk machine but I would like to build a small collection of records for the cylinder machine.
I guess the same request list that we have been working with... blues, jazz, hillbilly, hokum, minstrel/race/Jim Crow, boogie woogie, honky tonk, bluegrass.
I know that they are all over eBay but I just wouldn't trust the quality unless I was dealing with a recommended dealer that is known to this forum.

I'll be bugging all y'all soon about a few issues that the machine has.
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I wouldn't look for boogie-woogie, honky-tonk, or bluegrass on cylinders, as those are later genres. Not much jazz, either - at least not the really hot stuff.

You're most likely to find lots of sentimental songs, light classics, dance bands, etc. .....

Remember, there are also Indestructibles and Everlastings in both 2 and 4 minute formats to choose from (what sort of reproducer does it have: C or H or...? The first two are not especially rare, so you can have one for both formats).

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Lucius1958 wrote: Remember, there are also Indestructibles and Everlastings in both 2 and 4 minute formats to choose from (what sort of reproducer does it have: C or H or...? The first two are not especially rare, so you can have one for both formats).
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Yeah... I kind of figured that my music style options would be limited.
I have the H reproducer.
What do you mean by "The first two are not especially rare"? Are you talking about reproducers or cylinders?

Are there new recordings of the old cylinders available anywhere? Do they get re-cut?

So my original question... besides eBay, who sells cylinders online?
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Lucius1958 wrote:I wouldn't look for boogie-woogie, honky-tonk, or bluegrass on cylinders, as those are later genres. Not much jazz, either - at least not the really hot stuff.

You're most likely to find lots of sentimental songs, light classics, dance bands, etc. .....

Remember, there are also Indestructibles and Everlastings in both 2 and 4 minute formats to choose from (what sort of reproducer does it have: C or H or...? The first two are not especially rare, so you can have one for both formats).

Bill
Actually there is some, and it's out there but they command a hefty price often from several hundred to a thousand a record. They were dubbed from Diamond Discs.

There's plenty of "minstrel-sy", "coon songs", popular tunes of the day, and early country stuff on BA as well as decent dance fox trot records out there to get you going.

If you like classical pieces, don't forget Royal Purple amberols.

There are a couple sellers on eBay that I'll recommend, and some of them sell recently made hot jazz "BAs" at incredibly good prices when you consider what the originals cost.

Chris, let me go through my stuff after I get a major project down the road out of my shop here today or tomorrow. Almost done and I need to stay focused then I'll nose around.
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gramophone-georg wrote: There's plenty of "minstrel-sy", "coon songs", popular tunes of the day, and early country stuff on BA as well as decent dance fox trot records out there to get you going.

If you like classical pieces, don't forget Royal Purple amberols.

There are a couple sellers on eBay that I'll recommend, and some of them sell recently made hot jazz "BAs" at incredibly good prices when you consider what the originals cost.

Chris, let me go through my stuff after I get a major project down the road out of my shop here today or tomorrow. Almost done and I need to stay focused then I'll nose around.
Thank you.

Edison Blue Amberol
Indestructible
Everlasting
Royal Purple Amberol
Are there any other brands of celluloid cylinders that I should know about?

And I suppose that there isn't the acoustic vs. electronic recording issue that disks have right?
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CMcPherson wrote:
gramophone-georg wrote: There's plenty of "minstrel-sy", "coon songs", popular tunes of the day, and early country stuff on BA as well as decent dance fox trot records out there to get you going.

If you like classical pieces, don't forget Royal Purple amberols.

There are a couple sellers on eBay that I'll recommend, and some of them sell recently made hot jazz "BAs" at incredibly good prices when you consider what the originals cost.

Chris, let me go through my stuff after I get a major project down the road out of my shop here today or tomorrow. Almost done and I need to stay focused then I'll nose around.
Thank you.

Edison Blue Amberol
Indestructible
Everlasting
Royal Purple Amberol
Are there any other brands of celluloid cylinders that I should know about?

And I suppose that there isn't the acoustic vs. electronic recording issue that disks have right?
The major recording issue IMO is that the majority of Blue Amberols were dubbed from Diamond Discs, in a cost-saving measure, starting in 1915. This continued with a few exceptions until the end of the era in 1929.
Dubbed cylinders started around about #2500. Those below (1500-2500) were direct recordings, and therefore better-sounding than the later ones.
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barnettrp21122 wrote: The major recording issue IMO is that the majority of Blue Amberols were dubbed from Diamond Discs, in a cost-saving measure, starting in 1915. This continued with a few exceptions until the end of the era in 1929.
Dubbed cylinders started around about #2500. Those below (1500-2500) were direct recordings, and therefore better-sounding than the later ones.
That's good to know.
And below 1500 were wax I suppose?
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Don't forget the marches; there are a lot of good marches on BA, many recorded by Sousa's band, which I find historically significant.

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