Rare victor horn or Frankenhorn?

[rbosco]

Bought a Victor III recently and came with this strange but reallly unique horn . It has a place for a hanger as if it was originally a EDISON aftermarket but has all victor mount in back. The red paint goes all the way through the 2 sections inside and the 2nd part of the horn matches the front. Any one seen one like this before. Think it is original aftermarket?

[Phonofreak]

I'm sorry to say, but I think this is a cylinder horn made to "fit" a Victor elbow.
Harvey Kravitz

[Jerry B.]

Before giving an opinion it would be nice to see the small end of the horn without the elbow.

Jerry Blais

[cleveland1996]

Weren’t there some aftermarket horns that were marketed as cylinder phongraph horns, but could be cut down for disc machines?

[startgroove]

Jerry is right. The exposed small end of the horn will have enough evidence to tell whether it is a correct double use horn or something that has been butchered. Cheers, Russie Ofria

[Talkophone]

I would say its not rare Victor horn but an after market horn to fit a Victor machine.
Larry

[phonogfp]

The horn is clearly marked on the hanger as being a product of a well-known horn manufacturer: the Standard Metal Manufacturing Company. There are some legitimate disc horns that were factory-modified from cylinder horn inventory (For instance, Star used Hawthorne & Sheble cylinder horns with hangers on many of its front-mount machines). As noted by others above, the only question is what the small end of the horn looks like.

George P.