Does this Berliner Trademark have any original parts?

phono-farm · Post by **phono-farm** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:31 am

I know this is a reproduction machine, but are there any parts on it anywhere that are original? Does anyone know who made these?
Thanks, Greg

Post by **gramophone78** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:29 am

In a word....."no". The machine is a Japanese copy made in the 1980's.

Post by **Lucius1958** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 10:48 pm

I think Eric Reiss mentioned these: they were exact copies of the originals, except for all the screws and bolts being metric.

Bill

phono-farm · Post by **phono-farm** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:26 am

Thanks for confirming this. The seller had told me it was a repro, and now I know that it is a COMPLETE repro, and not some original parts with a repro cabinet, etc., to complete it.

VanEpsFan1914 · Post by **VanEpsFan1914** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:31 am

I actually like it. With new Berliner records out from donniej (Don Wilson) it would make an ideal pairing in case a more Victorian-inclined somebody wanted to actually use a Berliner machine for daily listening.

Wish they'd make some little phonographs like that today.

Jerry B. · Post by **Jerry B.** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:37 am

If my memory is correct, when these were offered in the 80's the price was about the same as a clean Victor R or front mount E at around $750. I remember thinking that I'd rather have a clean Victor R over a reproduction Trademark. What is the market price of the reproduction Trademark today?

Jerry Blais

Post by **alang** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:11 am

VanEpsFan1914 wrote:I actually like it. With new Berliner records out from donniej (Don Wilson) it would make an ideal pairing in case a more Victorian-inclined somebody wanted to actually use a Berliner machine for daily listening.

Wish they'd make some little phonographs like that today.

Jean Paul Agnard used to make reproduction Puck phonographs, the "Lys-O-Phone". http://www3.sympatico.ca/jean-paul.agna ... ophone.htm. Not sure if they are still available though?

Andreas

Canuk Phonographs · Post by **Canuk Phonographs** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:04 pm

For what it is worth, I believe that the cast iron motor frame, governor assembly and spindle with the fibre gear are original. Everything else iooks new or re-plated. I would buy it just for those parts, especially if the fibre gear was in good condition.
Blain

Post by **Bruce** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 4:41 pm

FYI

The Serial numbers off of these Japanese Reproduction Trademarks are
34371 Spring Housing
18425 Reproducer

and the motor is as the rest of the machine is all reproduction parts.

Bruce

phono-farm · Post by **phono-farm** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:02 pm

I must say that the motor was the only part that I really thought had a good chance of being original. I don't have an original to compare it to, but it just looked so much like it could be original. I wondered why they would go to the trouble to make it like that when it is just hidden inside the cabinet. So, I give whoever made it credit for doing as good of a job with it as they did.

Does this Berliner Trademark have any original parts?

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