Brown wax records and early Columbia machines

[Edisonfan]

I have a question? I own two early Columbia Cylinder Phonographs from the 1890’s. An Eagle and a Type “Q”. My question is, where these machines designed mainly for playing brown wax cylinder records?


Paul

[Phototone]

Yes, as there were no other types of records made then.

[Edisonfan]

That is what I thought? Thank You!

[AmberolaAndy]

Yeah, my Q from 1901 is strictly a brown wax machine because I only have black wax and celluloid records and they sound a little too slow on playback. I need to make an ad on the Yankee Trader section for some brown waxes one day so I can finally hear my Q the way it was meant to be heard.

[Menophanes]

Yeah, my Q from 1901 is strictly a brown wax machine because I only have black wax and celluloid records and they sound a little too slow on playback. I need to make an ad on the Yankee Trader section for some brown waxes one day so I can finally hear my Q the way it was meant to be heard.

Andy's post is of particular interest to me, since I have found (as I think I have mentioned before) that the Q will not run much faster than 130 r.p.m. and is therefore unsuitable for black-wax cylinders or even for some later Columbia browns (those, I think, which were marketed as 'Extra Loud, High Speed'). I am no longer troubled about this as I now have an AT of the 'New York & Paris' period (circa 1900, and thus a little older than both my and Andy's Qs) which is equally appropriate for early cylinders but whose regulator has a much wider range.

Oliver Mundy.

[AmberolaAndy]

Yeah, my Q from 1901 is strictly a brown wax machine because I only have black wax and celluloid records and they sound a little too slow on playback. I need to make an ad on the Yankee Trader section for some brown waxes one day so I can finally hear my Q the way it was meant to be heard.

Andy's post is of particular interest to me, since I have found (as I think I have mentioned before) that the Q will not run much faster than 130 r.p.m. and is therefore unsuitable for black-wax cylinders or even for some later Columbia browns (those, I think, which were marketed as 'Extra Loud, High Speed'). I am no longer troubled about this as I now have an AT of the 'New York & Paris' period (circa 1900, and thus a little older than both my and Andy's Qs) which is equally appropriate for early cylinders but whose regulator has a much wider range.

Oliver Mundy.

I wonder if people “upgraded” their machines with different feedscrews to accommodate the newer black wax records?

[fran604g]

Yeah, my Q from 1901 is strictly a brown wax machine because I only have black wax and celluloid records and they sound a little too slow on playback. I need to make an ad on the Yankee Trader section for some brown waxes one day so I can finally hear my Q the way it was meant to be heard.

Andy's post is of particular interest to me, since I have found (as I think I have mentioned before) that the Q will not run much faster than 130 r.p.m. and is therefore unsuitable for black-wax cylinders or even for some later Columbia browns (those, I think, which were marketed as 'Extra Loud, High Speed'). I am no longer troubled about this as I now have an AT of the 'New York & Paris' period (circa 1900, and thus a little older than both my and Andy's Qs) which is equally appropriate for early cylinders but whose regulator has a much wider range.

Oliver Mundy.

I wonder if people “upgraded” their machines with different feedscrews to accommodate the newer black wax records?

If they did, they also would've needed to swap the drive pulley/gear and half-nut as well.

Fran

[phonogfp]

Oliver Mundy.

I wonder if people “upgraded” their machines with different feedscrews to accommodate the newer black wax records?[/quote]

Gosh, no. All feedscrews for Qs are 100 tpi. The threads-per-inch didn't change; only the speed.

George P.

[fran604g]

Gosh, no. All feedscrews for Qs are 100 tpi. The threads-per-inch didn't change; only the speed.

George P.

That's not true, George. The early Q sported a smaller drive pulley and a finer thread feed screw.

Somewhere here I posted my discovery a couple of years ago. I'll try to see if I can find it.

[fran604g]

I found the discussion, here http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =2&t=28984

Best,
Fran