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I have a question? I own two early Columbia Cylinder Phonographs from the 1890’s. An Eagle and a Type “Q”. My question is, where these machines designed mainly for playing brown wax cylinder records?


Paul

Yes, as there were no other types of records made then.

That is what I thought? Thank You!

Yeah, my Q from 1901 is strictly a brown wax machine because I only have black wax and celluloid records and they sound a little too slow on playback. I need to make an ad on the Yankee Trader section for some brown waxes one day so I can finally hear my Q the way it was meant to be heard.

AmberolaAndy wrote:Yeah, my Q from 1901 is strictly a brown wax machine because I only have black wax and celluloid records and they sound a little too slow on playback. I need to make an ad on the Yankee Trader section for some brown waxes one day so I can finally hear my Q the way it was meant to be heard.

Andy's post is of particular interest to me, since I have found (as I think I have mentioned before) that the Q will not run much faster than 130 r.p.m. and is therefore unsuitable for black-wax cylinders or even for some later Columbia browns (those, I think, which were marketed as 'Extra Loud, High Speed'). I am no longer troubled about this as I now have an AT of the 'New York & Paris' period (circa 1900, and thus a little older than both my and Andy's Qs) which is equally appropriate for early cylinders but whose regulator has a much wider range.

Oliver Mundy.

Menophanes wrote:

AmberolaAndy wrote:Yeah, my Q from 1901 is strictly a brown wax machine because I only have black wax and celluloid records and they sound a little too slow on playback. I need to make an ad on the Yankee Trader section for some brown waxes one day so I can finally hear my Q the way it was meant to be heard.

Andy's post is of particular interest to me, since I have found (as I think I have mentioned before) that the Q will not run much faster than 130 r.p.m. and is therefore unsuitable for black-wax cylinders or even for some later Columbia browns (those, I think, which were marketed as 'Extra Loud, High Speed'). I am no longer troubled about this as I now have an AT of the 'New York & Paris' period (circa 1900, and thus a little older than both my and Andy's Qs) which is equally appropriate for early cylinders but whose regulator has a much wider range.

Oliver Mundy.

I wonder if people “upgraded” their machines with different feedscrews to accommodate the newer black wax records?

AmberolaAndy wrote:

Menophanes wrote:

AmberolaAndy wrote:Yeah, my Q from 1901 is strictly a brown wax machine because I only have black wax and celluloid records and they sound a little too slow on playback. I need to make an ad on the Yankee Trader section for some brown waxes one day so I can finally hear my Q the way it was meant to be heard.

Andy's post is of particular interest to me, since I have found (as I think I have mentioned before) that the Q will not run much faster than 130 r.p.m. and is therefore unsuitable for black-wax cylinders or even for some later Columbia browns (those, I think, which were marketed as 'Extra Loud, High Speed'). I am no longer troubled about this as I now have an AT of the 'New York & Paris' period (circa 1900, and thus a little older than both my and Andy's Qs) which is equally appropriate for early cylinders but whose regulator has a much wider range.

Oliver Mundy.

I wonder if people “upgraded” their machines with different feedscrews to accommodate the newer black wax records?

If they did, they also would've needed to swap the drive pulley/gear and half-nut as well.

Fran

AmberolaAndy wrote: Oliver Mundy.

I wonder if people “upgraded” their machines with different feedscrews to accommodate the newer black wax records?[/quote]

Gosh, no. All feedscrews for Qs are 100 tpi. The threads-per-inch didn't change; only the speed.

George P.

phonogfp wrote: Gosh, no. All feedscrews for Qs are 100 tpi. The threads-per-inch didn't change; only the speed.

George P.

That's not true, George. The early Q sported a smaller drive pulley and a finer thread feed screw.

Somewhere here I posted my discovery a couple of years ago. I'll try to see if I can find it.

I found the discussion, here http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =2&t=28984

Best,
Fran