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Thanks for the info! I'm still puzzled as to why they chose not to trim the hinged side of the weight like they did for the M's and O's. Also, while both George L. Frow and Rob Lomas have documented the existence of trowel weight M's and O's, neither of them mention the existence of trimmed or trowel weight L's.MicaMonster wrote:Yes ,that is a factory trimmed weight. It was found that the full round weight would damage the black wax 4-minute Amberol cylinders. Some were sent back for an update, others were made this way.
I don’t play black wax Amberols, but find that either trowel cut or full weight L sounds great on Blue Amberols.
gsphonos wrote:And what about a curved weight Model L? Ron Dethlefson had one, but I never examined it closely, and don't have a close up picture. Now I see that there are 3 varieties of the Model L, when I thought there were just 2.
Mike Sorter
Riverside, CA
Because trimming the hinged end would only take weight off the hinge, and not the stylus, which was the whole point of lightening the weight.phonopal wrote:Thanks for the info! I'm still puzzled as to why they chose not to trim the hinged side of the weight like they did for the M's and O's. Also, while both George L. Frow and Rob Lomas have documented the existence of trowel weight M's and O's, neither of them mention the existence of trimmed or trowel weight L's.MicaMonster wrote:Yes ,that is a factory trimmed weight. It was found that the full round weight would damage the black wax 4-minute Amberol cylinders. Some were sent back for an update, others were made this way.
I don’t play black wax Amberols, but find that either trowel cut or full weight L sounds great on Blue Amberols.
Makes sense, but does this mean that the common trowel weight design of the M's and O's with its trimmed hinged end has not been well designed after all? Then again, maybe that 2/4 minute rod that sticks out beyond the hinged end of the M's and O's ends up balancing things out…?JerryVan wrote:Because trimming the hinged end would only take weight off the hinge, and not the stylus, which was the whole point of lightening the weight.phonopal wrote:Thanks for the info! I'm still puzzled as to why they chose not to trim the hinged side of the weight like they did for the M's and O's. Also, while both George L. Frow and Rob Lomas have documented the existence of trowel weight M's and O's, neither of them mention the existence of trimmed or trowel weight L's.MicaMonster wrote:Yes ,that is a factory trimmed weight. It was found that the full round weight would damage the black wax 4-minute Amberol cylinders. Some were sent back for an update, others were made this way.
I don’t play black wax Amberols, but find that either trowel cut or full weight L sounds great on Blue Amberols.
MicaMonster wrote:The early one was a flattened H weight, essentially, called the “fishtail.”. Had one on Amberola ser# 2!
Ahhh…...that's the one! Thanks!
gsphonos wrote:And what about a curved weight Model L? Ron Dethlefson had one, but I never examined it closely, and don't have a close up picture. Now I see that there are 3 varieties of the Model L, when I thought there were just 2.
Mike Sorter
Riverside, CA
"Makes sense, but does this mean that the common trowel weight design of the M's and O's with its trimmed hinged end has not been well designed after all? Then again, maybe that 2/4 minute rod that sticks out beyond the hinged end of the M's and O's ends up balancing things out…?"phonopal wrote:Because trimming the hinged end would only take weight off the hinge, and not the stylus, which was the whole point of lightening the weight.JerryVan wrote:Thanks for the info! I'm still puzzled as to why they chose not to trim the hinged side of the weight like they did for the M's and O's. Also, while both George L. Frow and Rob Lomas have documented the existence of trowel weight M's and O's, neither of them mention the existence of trimmed or trowel weight L's.MicaMonster wrote:Yes ,that is a factory trimmed weight. It was found that the full round weight would damage the black wax 4-minute Amberol cylinders. Some were sent back for an update, others were made this way.
I don’t play black wax Amberols, but find that either trowel cut or full weight L sounds great on Blue Amberols.