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16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:45 pm
by toysbyroy
I found these four 16" 78rpm discs that appear to be Pathé Exchange soundtracks from silent movies from 1929 - 1930. I don't have a machine capable of playing them. 2 appear to be lateral Victor Talking Machine recordings and 2 appear to be vertical recordings. Anyone familiar with these type of recordings and their potential worth? Thanks, Roy
Re: 16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:31 pm
by Henry
Can't answer your questions, but I would point out that if these records contain sound tracks tor movies, then the movies are not "silent pictures."
Re: 16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 1:53 pm
by Wolfe
One looks like a soundtrack for a newsreel.
Outfits like the "Vitaphone Project" are interested in lost sound portions of sound on disc movies. Unless you have something rare / lost and being sought by interested parties, I wouldn't think these have any special monetary value.
Re: 16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:53 pm
by Roaring20s
You have this information on the records, but I have collected it here for your post...
From:
Discography of American Historical Recordings
Victor matrix MVE-D-0614
Love's Memory / Pathé Pictures
Description: Motion picture soundtrack : Film to wax transfer
Victor ledgers: "Audible." The soundtrack for the reel includes dialogue and/or closely synchronized sound.
https://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/ ... ves_memory
Victor matrix MVE-DR-211. Pathé audio review. Vol. 1, no. 11 / Pathé Pictures
Description: Motion picture soundtrack : Film to wax transfer
Victor ledgers: "Audible, Photophone." The soundtrack for the reel includes dialogue and/or closely synchronized sound.
https://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/ ... ._1_no._11
Victor matrix MVE-DR-214. Audio review. No. 14 / Pathé Pictures
Description: Motion picture soundtrack : Film to wax transfer
Victor ledgers: "Audible—Photophone." The soundtrack for the reel includes dialogue or other closely synchronized sound.
https://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/ ... ew._No._14
Victor matrix MVE-DR-220. Pathé audio review. Vol. 1, no. 20 / Pathé Pictures
Description: Motion picture soundtrack : Film to wax transfer
Victor ledgers: "Inaudible—Photophone." The soundtrack for the reel includes dialogue and/or closely synchronized sound.
https://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/ ... ._1_no._20
The above DR-220 contradicts itself by saying "Inaudible" and "includes dialogue". Only playing will settle that.
Also all of them say "Film to wax transfer". I assume that means they dubbed from sound film for use in theaters that did not have sound projectors yet.
James.
Re: 16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:37 pm
by toysbyroy
James: thank you for the good info. Tomorrow I will be listening to them with a friend who has modern equipment to play them. I'll post the results. Roy
Re: 16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 3:39 pm
by toysbyroy
James, when I clicked on the links you posted, Firefox gives me a serious security warning.
Re: 16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 4:32 pm
by Wolfe
I've been getting the message about expired security certificate on the DAHR site. I think it's alright.
Love's Memory - I wonder if that's a "soundie."
Re: 16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:43 pm
by Roaring20s
I think I have found it... (not "Love's Memory", but "Love's Memories")
From: Filmo Topics - WordPress.com
https://vintagebhcollector.files.wordpr ... 10bell.pdf

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Also from: Filmography - Southern Illinois University Press
http://www.siupress.com/sites/default/f ... 0Final.pdf
1930
All films from this point on are all-talking sound pictures, although the Pathé News and Pathé Review are still being offered in silent as well as sound versions.
Week of February 16
Love’s Memories (Song Sketch)
James.
Re: 16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:34 pm
by Wolfe
WHOA ! You are the information finder, James. Good stuff.
Re: 16" Victor Silent Movie Records
Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2020 10:21 pm
by Roaring20s
Wolfe wrote:WHOA ! You are the information finder, James. Good stuff.
Right back at you. I've seen you pull rabbits out of hats too.
