Help identifying my gramophone please!
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Help identifying my gramophone please!
I just got a gramophone that is in need of parts yet I cannot figure out the make and model in order to find the correct items. I am not trying to sell it but want to make it playable. It appears to have German writing on a small nameplate on top with what I thought said "schmachtenberg" but Google searches turned up nothing. The seller knew very little about it. I've attached pictures, any help is appreciated.
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Re: Help identifying my gramophone please!
Sorry I can't be of much help but it looks European to me. You might have luck posting your question in the British & Euopean section of our Forum.
Best is luck,
Jerry Blais
Best is luck,
Jerry Blais
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Re: Help identifying my gramophone please!
Thanks, I emailed someone in the UK that suggested I come here but no one seems to recognize it. 

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Re: Help identifying my gramophone please!
Hello, I think you have a very nice horn gramophone there.
Yes, the gramophone is obvuiously German/ Swizz, and even if I can not tell you the manufacturer of your gramophone, I can tell you that the motor was made by Gebruder Steidinger (Steidinger Brothers) in Germany. The Steidinger 51 motor that you have in your gramophone, must be a very similar motor the double spring Steidinger 50 motor that is within my Gekaico portable gramophone, you can read about it here, and also read more about Steidinger:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=45496&p=269971&hil ... er#p269971
I have also discovered that Steidinger motors are found in Majestrola portables, and most likely also in other gramophones from this period. You can read more about Steidinger on wikipedia, and that they later on changed name to Dual, which after WW2 became the biggest manufacturer of turntables in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_(brand)
Yes, the gramophone is obvuiously German/ Swizz, and even if I can not tell you the manufacturer of your gramophone, I can tell you that the motor was made by Gebruder Steidinger (Steidinger Brothers) in Germany. The Steidinger 51 motor that you have in your gramophone, must be a very similar motor the double spring Steidinger 50 motor that is within my Gekaico portable gramophone, you can read about it here, and also read more about Steidinger:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=45496&p=269971&hil ... er#p269971
I have also discovered that Steidinger motors are found in Majestrola portables, and most likely also in other gramophones from this period. You can read more about Steidinger on wikipedia, and that they later on changed name to Dual, which after WW2 became the biggest manufacturer of turntables in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_(brand)
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Re: Help identifying my gramophone please!
I'm a little concerned about all of those woodworm holes dotting the cabinet. Hopefully, all of the munching critters are long dead, but just to be on the safe side, you might want to isolate the cabinet until you have a chance to do a careful inspection.
SEE: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23743
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SEE: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=23743
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Re: Help identifying my gramophone please!
Thank you so much, I didn't even think about the fact the damage may be more recent and to check for active bugs. I will do that immediately, luckily I have the piece in the garage on its own still.
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Re: Help identifying my gramophone please!
It is a classic German / Swiss style machine.
Using the motor to identify it is not possible as this is the 4th or 5th motor that has been in the machine.
Using the motor to identify it is not possible as this is the 4th or 5th motor that has been in the machine.
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Re: Help identifying my gramophone please!
Sidewinder wrote:It is a classic German / Swiss style machine.
Using the motor to identify it is not possible as this is the 4th or 5th motor that has been in the machine.
Awesome, thank you.
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Re: Help identifying my gramophone please!
The nameplate is probably that of the retailer not the manufacturer. As others have said, this looks like a typical Swiss/German machine.
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Re: Help identifying my gramophone please!
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