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Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:36 pm
by CharliePhono
Does this model have the "floating" internal horn or the horn with the motor suspended in its center? I have a VV-X table model which has the latter, and I am interested in a VV-X "spider leg" model close to me. However, for obvious reasons, I do not want another machine with the motor suspended in the horn. By design, these are fraught with air leaks. Thanks in advance!
Re: Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:45 pm
by Inigo
Yes, in these machines the horn is more a kind of echo chamber...
Re: Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:36 pm
by CharliePhono
Inigo wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:45 pm
Yes, in these machines the horn is more a kind of echo chamber...
So the Queen Anne version of the VV-X does not have the floating horn?
Re: Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:23 pm
by EarlH
The two I've refinished kind of have the horn sitting down where the "horn" is and there are a few boards to kind of reflect the sound out through the grille. Sort of like in a Victrola IV but bigger. Maybe there are variations on that or they changed it in the later machines, but that's the way the two I worked on were designed. If it has a grille in it that has all the slats aimed down so you cannot see easily into the horn, I'd guess it has that arrangement.
Re: Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:42 am
by CharliePhono
EarlH wrote: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:23 pm
The two I've refinished kind of have the horn sitting down where the "horn" is and there are a few boards to kind of reflect the sound out through the grille. Sort of like in a Victrola IV but bigger. Maybe there are variations on that or they changed it in the later machines, but that's the way the two I worked on were designed. If it has a grille in it that has all the slats aimed down so you cannot see easily into the horn, I'd guess it has that arrangement.
Thanks much, Earl!
Re: Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:39 pm
by zipcord
here's some photos of my Spider Leg VV-X
Re: Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:45 pm
by Inigo
The zipcord example is what is called the floating horn? It's a complete horn. The motor goes outside, on top of it.
Re: Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:40 pm
by JerryVan
Inigo wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:45 pm
The zipcord example is what is called the floating horn? It's a complete horn. The motor goes outside, on top of it.
Wondering that myself. In 40 years of messing with these things, I've never heard the term "floating horn" before.
Re: Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:15 pm
by Inigo
I've read it somewhere, maybe in old hmv catalogues, or maybe other place. But I want to recall... that even I've seen it in Spanish hmv catalogues, translated into Spanish (bocina flotante) referring to the big Gramófono no27, which was the equivalent to the Victrola XVI.
So the horn of the L-door XVI was the floating horn. It's it like this one? Cast iron throat and mid part, and wooden extension with slats, the horn hanging from the tonearm board, and fixed to the cabinet by means of two felt-lined wooden L-shaped blocks fixing the wooden extension to the cabinet sides near the mouth?
Re: Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:51 pm
by CharliePhono
zipcord wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:39 pm
here's some photos of my Spider Leg VV-X20160306_103241.jpg
Perfect. Thanks much for taking the time to make and upload the pics.