Horn of the VV-X "spider"/Queen Anne legs model

[CharliePhono]

Does this model have the "floating" internal horn or the horn with the motor suspended in its center? I have a VV-X table model which has the latter, and I am interested in a VV-X "spider leg" model close to me. However, for obvious reasons, I do not want another machine with the motor suspended in the horn. By design, these are fraught with air leaks. Thanks in advance!

[Inigo]

Yes, in these machines the horn is more a kind of echo chamber...

[CharliePhono]

Yes, in these machines the horn is more a kind of echo chamber...

So the Queen Anne version of the VV-X does not have the floating horn?

[EarlH]

The two I've refinished kind of have the horn sitting down where the "horn" is and there are a few boards to kind of reflect the sound out through the grille. Sort of like in a Victrola IV but bigger. Maybe there are variations on that or they changed it in the later machines, but that's the way the two I worked on were designed. If it has a grille in it that has all the slats aimed down so you cannot see easily into the horn, I'd guess it has that arrangement.

[CharliePhono]

The two I've refinished kind of have the horn sitting down where the "horn" is and there are a few boards to kind of reflect the sound out through the grille. Sort of like in a Victrola IV but bigger. Maybe there are variations on that or they changed it in the later machines, but that's the way the two I worked on were designed. If it has a grille in it that has all the slats aimed down so you cannot see easily into the horn, I'd guess it has that arrangement.

Thanks much, Earl!

[zipcord]

here's some photos of my Spider Leg VV-X

[Inigo]

The zipcord example is what is called the floating horn? It's a complete horn. The motor goes outside, on top of it.

[JerryVan]

The zipcord example is what is called the floating horn? It's a complete horn. The motor goes outside, on top of it.

Wondering that myself. In 40 years of messing with these things, I've never heard the term "floating horn" before.

[Inigo]

I've read it somewhere, maybe in old hmv catalogues, or maybe other place. But I want to recall... that even I've seen it in Spanish hmv catalogues, translated into Spanish (bocina flotante) referring to the big Gramófono no27, which was the equivalent to the Victrola XVI.
So the horn of the L-door XVI was the floating horn. It's it like this one? Cast iron throat and mid part, and wooden extension with slats, the horn hanging from the tonearm board, and fixed to the cabinet by means of two felt-lined wooden L-shaped blocks fixing the wooden extension to the cabinet sides near the mouth?

[CharliePhono]

here's some photos of my Spider Leg VV-X20160306_103241.jpg

Perfect. Thanks much for taking the time to make and upload the pics.