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EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:51 am
by tictalk
I found this in a box of parts , does anyone know what it goes to ? Notice the threads on the front side of the carriage. Thanks Larry
Re: EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:55 am
by phonogfp
This carriage is for use with an ICS repeater. It appears to be a Gem carriage.
George P.
Re: EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:43 am
by tictalk
Thankyou George,
Re: EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 9:57 pm
by phonogfp
You bet, Larry.
George P.
Re: EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:48 pm
by Pathe Logical
Still learning --- I've never seen a Gem with an ICS repeater. Time to hit the books...
Re: EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:34 am
by Mormon S
Pathé Logical wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 10:48 pm
Still learning --- I've never seen a Gem with an ICS repeater. Time to hit the books...
I have seen an ICS gem with the large upper pulley, but never one with a repeater. The gem carriages also have the threaded holes in the center for the downward facing half-nut, since the feed screw on the gem is below the carriage rod. Looks to me like a standard C carriage.
Re: EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 6:16 am
by phonogfp
Mormon S wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:34 am
I have seen an ICS gem with the large upper pulley, but never one with a repeater. The gem carriages also have the threaded holes in the center for the downward facing half-nut, since the feed screw on the gem is below the carriage rod. Looks to me like a standard C carriage.
It may indeed be a carriage for a Standard.
George P.
Re: EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:24 pm
by gsphonos
That appears to be for a Standard Model C or later. I just found a picture of my C and attached it here. It would also work on a later Standard ICS machine. It can’t be used on an earlier Standard A or B ICS machine.
Mike Sorter
Riverside, CA
Re: EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:25 pm
by gsphonos
I’ll try again with the picture—didn’t get it posted the first time.
Re: EDISON CARRIAGE WHAT DOES IT FIT?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:53 pm
by AllenKoe
Just in case there is any confusion, the word "repeater" here does not mean that the arm does what most (traditional) "repeaters" do. It doesn't play the cylinder again, from the beginning.
In this case, the arm (when activated) just lifts a bit and moves backwards several seconds' worth, so to conveniently repeat a "foreign phrase." If this was obvious, please forgive. How many seconds, I don't know for sure...
Incidentally, the ICS Company (Scranton, PA) had their molded black wax (language) cylinders on the market before National Phono. (Dec 1901 vs Feb 1902).
Allen