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Maybe it will sell quite cheaply as there may not be an EMG soundbox ? Does it have a droopy horn / horn wilt ?

If you are the only bidder it could be yours for 99 pence ? Sadly no make an offer button

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225528911604 ... R7Kn7YzwYQ

I've already pointed out the errors in their listing / thinking as they openly invited "experts to tell them what it is". Now it has bids, I'm not sure they can change the title......anyway, it appears to be an Expert Junior although the pictures are not very good so it could be a Minor. I've given them the horn measurements to check. The horn looks very small in some pictures and bigger in others!

I just HAD to correct them about the sound quality being typical of "100 year old gramophone". That is wrong on so many accounts. If it had the right soundbox it would wipe the smirk of the seller's face.

Don't be fooled. It'll make whatever these fetch today. The seller, although clueless, will not sell it for 99p to anyone. Its somewhat baffling how an uncommon machine can get so spectacularly into the wrong hands.

At that cheap price it would be easy to hide its ugliness by installing the components in a nice case, perhaps something handsome like this…

PeterF wrote: Fri Apr 14, 2023 4:46 pm At that cheap price it would be easy to hide its ugliness by installing the components in a nice case, perhaps something handsome like this…

Oh you wag Peter.

If it got THAT ugly it'd become a Victrola!

Given the seller's location, the machine may not have to travel very far to find a new home.

epigramophone wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:09 am Given the seller's location, the machine may not have to travel very far to find a new home.

That's a cryptic comment if ever there was!

Is it good enough for the discerning buyer? Perhaps that's another!

Good enough for someone with the parts and skills to improve it, provided of course that the price is right.

Apart from discarding that awful soundbox and replacing it with an Expert two-spring, I'm not sure what else can be done to improve it. The out of shape bell will probably have to remain.

Are we decided if its definitely a "Junior"? The seller has argued with me than it must be an EMG because it says E M Ginn on the plaque and apparently it dates from 1920! That makes it an incredibly early non-EMG, EMG.

As Howard Hope once asked me" Why do you waste your time trying to help people when you know they're probably not going to listen anyway?" Yes, why do I bother?

Steve wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:58 am
Are we decided if its definitely a "Junior"?

Steve, from the photo the horn bell looks the size of a Junior (diameter slightly larger than the turntable case), but the back bracket is different from mine, that is two-stepped while the one in the photo has only one step (at the connection with the horn). Certainly an older version than mine. It is odd that the bell is not completely round, as the Expert horn normally has a metal ring at the rim that keeps the round shape. I also saw what looks like a used needle compartment, the first I see in an Expert or EMG - it could have been fitted by the owner. The case is also very different from mine.