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I requested a condition report and received the following information :
Condition Report : Overall fair to good.
Motor runs but speed control not working.
Dents to elbow and horn.
Wear to ebonised finish on case and pedestal.
One pillar on case re-stuck and now loose.
One lion's head mask missing it's ring.
Door stuck, handle missing and escutcheon loose.
My opinion on seeing the pictures : Potentially a rewarding project, but only if the price reflects the condition.
Then there is the 31.2% Buyer's premium, rising to a monstrous 37.14% if bidding via the saleroom.com, to be factored in.
Even if it only makes the lower pre-sale estimate of £3000, the buyer will have to pay about £4000.
You would have to want a Melba very badly indeed to pay this level of fees, to say nothing of the remedial work required.
G&T Melba & Pedestal for auction.
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Re: G&T Melba & Pedestal for auction.
Thank you for requesting this report. I thought about doing the same. The auctioneers had only supplied 3 poor pictures which only really show off-putting lead-solder repairs to the horn and tonearm.
The hole in the door for a handle shouldn’t be there, the door is normally opened just using the key.
I guess I would really need to view it as the photos don’t show the motor.
The buyer’s premium is indeed monstrous! There is good news though, you get 1% off the buyer’s premium if the item goes over £20,000.
The hole in the door for a handle shouldn’t be there, the door is normally opened just using the key.
I guess I would really need to view it as the photos don’t show the motor.
The buyer’s premium is indeed monstrous! There is good news though, you get 1% off the buyer’s premium if the item goes over £20,000.
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Re: G&T Melba & Pedestal for auction.
Has anyone mentioned the dog chewed feet and lower plinth yet?
It's also missing its original winding handle. Has it been re-motored, I wonder?
Poor thing. It has certainly been through the wars.....quite literally, of course!

It's also missing its original winding handle. Has it been re-motored, I wonder?
Poor thing. It has certainly been through the wars.....quite literally, of course!

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Re: G&T Melba & Pedestal for auction.
No, by Jove, they haven’t but I did wonder if it was rats.Steve wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:58 pm Has anyone mentioned the dog chewed feet and lower plinth yet?![]()
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Yes I did wonder whether the machine was a barn find.jamiegramo wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 4:36 pmNo, by Jove, they haven’t but I did wonder if it was rats.Steve wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2024 1:58 pm Has anyone mentioned the dog chewed feet and lower plinth yet?![]()
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Re: G&T Melba & Pedestal for auction.
A collector friend who has viewed the machine tells me that it's condition is worse than the pictures suggest.
We all know that pictures usually flatter a machine, but you have been warned.
We all know that pictures usually flatter a machine, but you have been warned.
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Re: G&T Melba & Pedestal for auction.
This lot sold for £2200 which means potentially the buyer will end up paying £3017 if they were online.
I don’t feel the price is excessive even considering the condition. The machine is rarer than the pedestal and appeared mostly complete. There is a Senior Monarch with pedestal on eBay for £3000 also needing work but a Melba is much rarer than a Senior Monarch. I considered bidding but personally I’m not that taken with the design of the Melba even as a lover of Art Nouveau. I prefer the New Melba.
I already have a Melba pedestal missing its brass hardware so if anyone has an original lion head handle I could get copied please let me know.
I don’t feel the price is excessive even considering the condition. The machine is rarer than the pedestal and appeared mostly complete. There is a Senior Monarch with pedestal on eBay for £3000 also needing work but a Melba is much rarer than a Senior Monarch. I considered bidding but personally I’m not that taken with the design of the Melba even as a lover of Art Nouveau. I prefer the New Melba.
I already have a Melba pedestal missing its brass hardware so if anyone has an original lion head handle I could get copied please let me know.
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Re: G&T Melba & Pedestal for auction.
I watched the auction live on www.the-saleroom.com, and yes it sold to an internet bidder.jamiegramo wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:18 am This lot sold for £2200 which means potentially the buyer will end up paying £3017 if they were online.
It must have dawned on the seller that the pre-sale estimate of £3000/£4000 was optimistic, because before opening the bidding the auctioneer announced that he had received "fresh instructions" i.e. to lower the reserve.
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Re: G&T Melba & Pedestal for auction.
I do like the Melba but I'm not looking for another project. If one turned up in beautiful condition I might be tempted. I'm not sure if the Monarch and pedestal to which you refer is the same one that was £7500 about 4 years ago and has been consistently relisted ever since?jamiegramo wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:18 am This lot sold for £2200 which means potentially the buyer will end up paying £3017 if they were online.
I don’t feel the price is excessive even considering the condition. The machine is rarer than the pedestal and appeared mostly complete. There is a Senior Monarch with pedestal on eBay for £3000 also needing work but a Melba is much rarer than a Senior Monarch. I considered bidding but personally I’m not that taken with the design of the Melba even as a lover of Art Nouveau. I prefer the New Melba.
I already have a Melba pedestal missing its brass hardware so if anyone has an original lion head handle I could get copied please let me know.
I have a Sheraton B without pedestal but whilst I am also a lover of Art Nouveau, I probably prefer my Spanish HMV No. 9 to the Melba. As for the price of this one, I agree that it was quite reasonable.
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Re: G&T Melba & Pedestal for auction.
For me also I think it’s not being tempted by another project! And lack of space...Steve wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:33 am
I do like the Melba but I'm not looking for another project. If one turned up in beautiful condition I might be tempted. I'm not sure if the Monarch and pedestal to which you refer is the same one that was £7500 about 4 years ago and has been consistently relisted ever since?
I have a Sheraton B without pedestal but whilst I am also a lover of Art Nouveau, I probably prefer my Spanish HMV No. 9 to the Melba. As for the price of this one, I agree that it was quite reasonable.
The Monarch and pedestal on eBay are in Romford and have been listed for sometime. I’m not sure what price it started at…
I think the Art Nouveau styling of the Melba is weak compared to the Spanish HMV No. 9 which has a definite fluid style. I love it. The Sheraton B is a very elegant machine.