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Here's an interesting opportunity - albeit with the wrong tonearm and soundbox.

I wonder whether the correct tonearm is the same as other more common HMVs of the period - does anyone know?

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auct ... 78669c2eb1

Actually it’s the same one used with the 109 table grand. I swapped out a rusty one from a 109 parts machine I had at one time.

Thanks!

This lot made £420 hammer price - a whopping 35.4% fees & VAT makes that about £567. A very strong price considering the wrong tonearm and soundbox (if the high bidders were aware), general condition and any other uncertainties.

Orchorsol wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:55 am This lot made £420 hammer price - a whopping 35.4% fees & VAT makes that about £567. A very strong price considering the wrong tonearm and soundbox (if the high bidders were aware), general condition and any other uncertainties.

Thank you for the update! I did look but the ‘auctioneer has chosen not to publish the price of this lot’. It seems most auctioneers are now exploiting the sale of this basic and public information to fee-paying sites and Toovey’s are an obvious candidate. I think this greed on top of the high commissions is sickening.

Now that eBay has ceased charging fees to private sellers, traditional auctioneers may notice a decline in business. They may even be forced to offer a professional service instead of carving out television careers for themselves, but sadly this may be wishful thinking.

epigramophone wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:32 am Now that eBay has ceased charging fees to private sellers, traditional auctioneers may notice a decline in business. They may even be forced to offer a professional service instead of carving out television careers for themselves, but sadly this may be wishful thinking.

Are you referring to eBay listing fees, or final value fees?

JerryVan wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:02 am

epigramophone wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:32 am Now that eBay has ceased charging fees to private sellers, traditional auctioneers may notice a decline in business. They may even be forced to offer a professional service instead of carving out television careers for themselves, but sadly this may be wishful thinking.

Are you referring to eBay listing fees, or final value fees?

Both. Selling on UK eBay for private sellers is completely free of charge with effect from 1st October 2024.

Strictly speaking, the 103 tone-arm is the right replacement. 109 is the same, except that it has two redundant screw-hole in the base, where the arm for the automatic stop was fitted.

Oedipus wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:29 am Strictly speaking, the 103 tone-arm is the right replacement. 109 is the same, except that it has two redundant screw-hole in the base, where the arm for the automatic stop was fitted.

If I had a HMV 103 parts machine, I would of course used its tone arm.

My HMV 109’s eventually went on to become some one’s else’s project. I’m a “gramophone” recycler