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No. It only has the No. 34 quad spring motor, as evidenced by the lack of gilt motor-plate to top AND the single lid stay. The improved models of 1929 (?) feature twin lid stays, an extension piece to the horn under the tone-arm rail and the No. 52 oil-bath motor.poodling around wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 7:08 am Would this one have an oil bath motor as well as 'the other one' I wonder ?
Not so good thenSteve wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 9:47 amNo. It only has the No. 34 quad spring motor, as evidenced by the lack of gilt motor-plate to top AND the single lid stay. The improved models of 1929 (?) feature twin lid stays, an extension piece to the horn under the tone-arm rail and the No. 52 oil-bath motor.poodling around wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 7:08 am Would this one have an oil bath motor as well as 'the other one' I wonder ?
Yes, they do exist; a former member of this forum in Australia, for example, owns a 202 with twin lid stay and No. 34, but these appear to be far fewer in number than the more commonly seen surviving examples which either have single lid stay and 34 motor or twin lid stay and 52 motor. There are always going to be odd exceptions.
That might account for how the auctioneer introduced the item by saying "I've had quite a lot of interest in this. I'm not sure why".Steve wrote: Sat Jan 24, 2026 8:11 am £750 plus commission BUT, one thing you will not always glean from reading "From The Saleroom" in For The Record, is what condition items are in which makes a fundamental difference to price / value.
This 194 was not in great condition: the motor board was severely crazed beyond what I've ever seen before and did not match the rest of the inside. Perhaps a previous keeper had removed it for repair and left it in a workshop for years where the sun had got to it?
The winding handle was missing although the motor ran. The exterior of the cabinet could best be described as "tired", faded and quite marked in places. However the lid had been damaged and poorly refinished but then left to get scratched up again so would require stripping and refinishing. The whole cabinet would benefit from that level of restoration which is not something I'm heard saying very often. It wasn't for me anyway and neither was I the underbidder.
