The serial number is 3734.
Here are some close-ups of the two reproducers, as well as another pic of the 8-12 after it was cleaned, gone over with touch-up stain, and polished.
Pictures of today's catch
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Escutcheon has 2 screws.
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Okay - your 8-12 is a fairly early example... mine is in the 5000 serial block, although it is a VE, not a VV... not sure how that skews dating... the paper label on the cabinet bottom is dated Sept 1927, if I remember correctly.
If you look on the bottom of the cabinet, you might find a paper label, a little smaller than a 3x5 index card with the user license information. At the bottom-left, near the edge is usually a printing date for the label. These dates usually are within month or so of the machine's final assembly.
Also, I see yours has the needle-type speed indicator, another indicator of earlier production; later machines had no indicator, just an oval escutcheon and thumb-screw, similar to a VV-VI.
Very late machines had a "three-eared" crank escutcheon, with three screws.
A good friend has two 8-12's, one from forum member "Gemering", and they both sound quite fine.
By comparison, my great-grandmother's machine sounds a little anemic, so I will probably goo looking for leaks in the horn / plumbing when warm weather returns.
Eventually, I will get my 2-door Credenza running, and will so some "Tone-Tests" comparing the 8-12 and the Credenza.
My friend with the other two 8-12's is an electrical engineer by trade, and has a very good ear... we have talked about taking a day or two, getting all our Orthophonics in the same room, and doing a series of recordings, sampling and comparing each machine, using the same record, reproducer, recording set-up, etc.

If you look on the bottom of the cabinet, you might find a paper label, a little smaller than a 3x5 index card with the user license information. At the bottom-left, near the edge is usually a printing date for the label. These dates usually are within month or so of the machine's final assembly.
Also, I see yours has the needle-type speed indicator, another indicator of earlier production; later machines had no indicator, just an oval escutcheon and thumb-screw, similar to a VV-VI.
Very late machines had a "three-eared" crank escutcheon, with three screws.
A good friend has two 8-12's, one from forum member "Gemering", and they both sound quite fine.
By comparison, my great-grandmother's machine sounds a little anemic, so I will probably goo looking for leaks in the horn / plumbing when warm weather returns.
Eventually, I will get my 2-door Credenza running, and will so some "Tone-Tests" comparing the 8-12 and the Credenza.
My friend with the other two 8-12's is an electrical engineer by trade, and has a very good ear... we have talked about taking a day or two, getting all our Orthophonics in the same room, and doing a series of recordings, sampling and comparing each machine, using the same record, reproducer, recording set-up, etc.
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I think I lucked out with my horn. First record I played, it was just a wow moment. Very full, and very loud.
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Your H-19 Edison diamond disc has the "Fleur-di-lise grille" which is very nice. The first machine I ever bought was an Edison
H-19 with a Fleur-di-lise grille. Congrats on the 8-12!
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H-19 with a Fleur-di-lise grille. Congrats on the 8-12!
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Ryan, Here are photos of tomorrow's catch. It's ready to be shipped. Jerry
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FYI, Gregg Cline has excellent repro decals for the damaged "4 Minute 2" on the bedplate.Jerry B. wrote:Ryan, Here are photos of tomorrow's catch. It's ready to be shipped. Jerry
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Noted, thanks.52089 wrote:FYI, Gregg Cline has excellent repro decals for the damaged "4 Minute 2" on the bedplate.Jerry B. wrote:Ryan, Here are photos of tomorrow's catch. It's ready to be shipped. Jerry
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I love that 8-12, very beautiful and great sound from this machine. The machine is close to an electric, if I had more financial resources, I would be down to either a full size Orthophonic or Electric Edison C-2, I just don't know which one is the best.
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I also have a Standard "D" in Mint original shape...but my machine has no "4 - Minute - 2" decal on it, and no evidence of one ever being there either. All of the other original pinstriping on the machine is original and untouched. I'd like to put one on there, but I don't see one on Gregg Cline's website. All I see is the earlier reversed "2 - Minute - 4" decals which are obviously incorrect. I just need the one decal, do you think that he'd sell me just the one decal as I don't need a whole set.
So does Gregg have the "4 - Minute - 2" decals or not?
PS: The Gear cover on that Standard "D" looks to be repro that has been "roughed up" to match the age of the bedplate. Only a good eye would catch that...lol.. That Mandrel shaft Oil Fill screw does not look right eithet....Other than that...Nice Machine!
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So does Gregg have the "4 - Minute - 2" decals or not?
PS: The Gear cover on that Standard "D" looks to be repro that has been "roughed up" to match the age of the bedplate. Only a good eye would catch that...lol.. That Mandrel shaft Oil Fill screw does not look right eithet....Other than that...Nice Machine!
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