Here is a large 2 page ad in the Saturday Evening Post dated Sep 14, 1912 offering the new Columbia Eclipse. Large images are posted online at:
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Note the reproducer, a Concert??
Interesting that is offer includes the double sided demonstration record free "beginning with the day of issue of this Saturday Evening Post and continuing for 30 days"
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Columbia 'Eclipse' Ad Sep 14, 1912
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Re: Columbia 'Eclipse' Ad Sep 14, 1912
Nice ad. This is the early Eclipse with the one piece nickle plated brass tone arm, and a 10" turntable. Yes, that is a Columbia Concert reproducer. I like these early Grafonolas because they still use outside horn parts, and no pot metal.
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Re: Columbia 'Eclipse' Ad Sep 14, 1912
Didn't they use what they called the "Analyzing Reproducer", did this have a mica or aluminum diaphragm?
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Re: Columbia 'Eclipse' Ad Sep 14, 1912
The Analyzing reproducer is the early one that used the spring loaded clamp. The earliest ones had a thumbscrew until Victor sued Columbia over the patent. The Columbia Concert used either Mica or a pleated Aluminum diaphragm. I have seen them both ways.
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Re: Columbia 'Eclipse' Ad Sep 14, 1912
I'll defer to Harvey on Columbia taxonomy, but Columbia seemed to transition through overlapping uses of tone-arms and reproducers...
The Analyzing reproducers I've seen, mounted to the tone-arm via three screws, from the arm into the backside of the reproducer head.
When Columbia came-out with the "Concert" and #5 reproducers, there were versions that also mounted via three screws from the back-side, but there was also an adapter flange with the first version of the bayonet-hub on one side, and a round flange drilled and tapped to accept three machine screws, but these were staggered "out of clock" with the screw-holes for the reproducer... in-between was a special rubber isolator, with six holes moulded into it, three to attach the isolator to the reproducer, and the other three to mount the isolator to the tone-arm.
I have / have seen Concert and # 5 Columbia reproducers set-up this way.
By about 1912 or 13, Columbia was casting reproducer bodies with an integral bayonet hub.
Also, the first-generation bayonet hub / receiver are slightly smaller than the later ones... later reproducers are a VERY tight fit in the early tone-arms ( as in, don't try it - the early arms are thin sheet-brass, "wrapped", and butt-soldered. Fragile`, as the Old Man would say).
A local phonograph buddy has two Eclipses, both slightly later than this ad version, one in oak, and the other in mahogany.
The Analyzing reproducers I've seen, mounted to the tone-arm via three screws, from the arm into the backside of the reproducer head.
When Columbia came-out with the "Concert" and #5 reproducers, there were versions that also mounted via three screws from the back-side, but there was also an adapter flange with the first version of the bayonet-hub on one side, and a round flange drilled and tapped to accept three machine screws, but these were staggered "out of clock" with the screw-holes for the reproducer... in-between was a special rubber isolator, with six holes moulded into it, three to attach the isolator to the reproducer, and the other three to mount the isolator to the tone-arm.
I have / have seen Concert and # 5 Columbia reproducers set-up this way.
By about 1912 or 13, Columbia was casting reproducer bodies with an integral bayonet hub.
Also, the first-generation bayonet hub / receiver are slightly smaller than the later ones... later reproducers are a VERY tight fit in the early tone-arms ( as in, don't try it - the early arms are thin sheet-brass, "wrapped", and butt-soldered. Fragile`, as the Old Man would say).
A local phonograph buddy has two Eclipses, both slightly later than this ad version, one in oak, and the other in mahogany.
De Soto Frank