Is this Columbia machine genuine?

[estott]

Here's what appears to be a very late Columbia horn machine. It uses a Grafonola style speed control and nothing looks wrong except the brass plate on the front which in small letters says Atlantis Talking Machine- it mimics the late columbia logo as well. Was Atlantis a subsidiary that sold off obsolescent stock once the internal horn machines became popular?

[Edisone]

A link or some pics would be helpful !

[ColoradoPhonograf]

I believe he is referring to this item on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1912-Columbia-Atlan ... 1e592ae576

[estott]

THANK you! I forgot to include a link.

It's probably genuine, there are so many Columbia variations, and so many client machines, unlike Victor there are no comprehensive websites or books.

[Edisone]

Not sure about the soundbox, but otherwise it looks decent ..... HOWEVER - I have never seen such an ID plate. "Victor and Columbia"? Weird. Maybe genuine, but weird. The $95 charge bothers me - AND the rotted-out section of the horn's threads should remove at least $100 in value. Keep this one down below $600, I say. You can get a nice Standard for that much.

[Brad]

I think the plate is just an advertizing plate. Looking closly at the picture of that plate I would expect to see more build up of wax and dirt around the edges of it. It looks a little too clean for me, although, it could have been removed, the cabinet cleaned or refinished, then replaced.