Triumph Model A conversion

[fmblizz]

Were there conversion kits for the Edison Model "A" Triumph? I've always liked the lines of the Model "A" and the large banner on front but also enjoy the convivence of the 2 & 4 minute machines.

blizz

[phonogfp]

Yes, absolutely.

George P.

[drh]

Indeed, see here for a recently available example: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=51234

[colmike1]

Indeed, see here for a recently available example: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=51234

Yes, that one is going to be a "keeper" for me. I love the look of the A and with it being a 2/4 machine, it will do everything I need it to do.
Mike Wohl

[MikeB]

Yes. My Triumph A was converted to 2/4, and a horizontal carriage was added to hold a Diamond B reproducer. I use a reducer ring when I use a Model C or a Model H reproducer, so I can play just about any cylinder with this machine. I think that the conversion was done a long time ago. The instructions for the conversion kit where still inside the machine.

[Lucius1958]

I also have a Triumph A with combination gearing and horizontal carriage. Got O and Diamond B reproducers for it as well.

- Bill

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[epigramophone]

My very early Model A (30360) was fully updated with 2/4 minute gearing, horizontal carriage, 11 panel Cygnet and Diamond B.
It also had the locking end gate fitted to machines supplied for the British market.
As I only collect Blue Amberols I sold it when I bought an Opera. The new owner has acquired a Model O reproducer for it.

[hbick2]

I have Triumph Model A, serial number 30136. A while back, when George Paul was collecting information on Triumphs, we discovered that mine was the earliest known Triumph Model A. I don't know if an older one has been found since then. I traded a banjo neck for this Triumph back in the 70's. It was converted to play 2/4 minute records when I got it and had a Model O reproducer.

What was more interesting was that it had also had a motor upgrade. If you look back through the Edison Phonograph Monthly issues, you will find an announcement about upgrading the early Triumphs to include a 4-ball governor. The Triumphs did not come with a 4-ball governor until Model D. This particular phonograph has that upgrade. It wasn't as simple as replacing the 3-ball governor with a 4-ball one. It also required replacing the the motor frame. Obviously, this was a pretty serious upgrade. One wonders how many were actually done. Below are some pictures.