Phonograph id

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trimblealx
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Phonograph id

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Hello to all.
I am new to this forum. This is a bit of an id mystery. I have an upright phonograph that I acquired in the late 1960’s. It was in the Hudson Valley region of New York.
The label on the lid says “Deluxe the phonograph Supreme”.The mica was cracked and I replaced the original diaphragm with a Victor Exhibition.
I didn’t save the original diaphragm.
The cabinet had been painted so I stripped and refinished it in the early 2000’s.
When I removed the lid the other side had a decal that was painted over but appears to say Sonora.
There is no other identification anywhere. The motor has no id on it.
I have cleaned the motor and looked everywhere for a name plate.
I will attach pictures.
I will also be asking some questions about spring removal when I find the right topic heading.
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This is the decal on the opposite side of the lid.
This is the decal on the opposite side of the lid.
This is the cleaned motor
This is the cleaned motor
This is the decal that appears when the lid is opened
This is the decal that appears when the lid is opened

trimblealx
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Re: Phonograph id

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Here is a picture of the phonograph
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Deluxe the phonograph Supreme
Deluxe the phonograph Supreme

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I’m assuming due to a newspaper article I found, this machine dates to about 1920 and was sold in New Jersey.

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Thanks for the info.
Do you know where I might find the newspaper article?

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This is an interesting mystery... The grille/cabinet would make me think it's a Sonora second style Nocturne (1920-1923) but the “Deluxe" decal is very odd. It looks period, making me think it's a re-branded Sonora? But Sonora did not license any of their phonographs to be re-branded.

I also found a local ad for a New Jersey piano shop advertising a “Deluxe" brand phonograph, but I can't say for certain if it's connected.
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This looks like it. Appears to be a re- branded Sonora .
Thanks Benjamin.

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Benjamin_L wrote: Fri May 31, 2024 10:35 pm This is an interesting mystery... The grille/cabinet would make me think it's a Sonora second style Nocturne (1920-1923) but the “Deluxe" decal is very odd. It looks period, making me think it's a re-branded Sonora? But Sonora did not license any of their phonographs to be re-branded.

I also found a local add for a New Jersey piano shop advertising a “Deluxe" brand phonograph, but I can't say for certain if it's connected.
Yup. Look at his 1st photo, showing the obliterated Sonora decal.

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