Strange soundbox in an HMV 109

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Strange soundbox in an HMV 109

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Anyone can identify this soundbox? Could it be a No.4 variant or is it a non-original soundbox. The machine is labelled "HMV 109".
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Re: Strange soundbox in an HMV 109

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that is just a un-named, off brand swiss made soundbox, very common but not very good generaly

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Re: Strange soundbox in an HMV 109

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What about this HMV 145? This cannot be a 5A soundbox, right? Or are there 5As like this?
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Re: Strange soundbox in an HMV 109

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That is a plastic soundbox from a 1950's children's phonograph.

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Re: Strange soundbox in an HMV 109

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The HMV #4 Sound Box generally looked about the same throughout its production run -->

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While the casing was eventually changed from brass to pot metal, all #4 sound boxes were equipped with mica diaphragms. There were no variations produced by the Gramophone Co, though the overall design was copied by other manufacturers.


As for the HMV 5a or 5b, the main difference involved the edge of the diaphragm, as you can see in these photos:

HMV 5A -->
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HMV 5B -->
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Re: Strange soundbox in an HMV 109

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David Spanovich wrote: As for the HMV 5a or 5b, the main difference involved the edge of the diaphragm, as you can see in these photos:
mmm... I cannot grasp the difference. Could you please re-post the pictures including red arrows pointing to the spots where the differences are to be observed? Thanks!

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Re: Strange soundbox in an HMV 109

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amrcg wrote:
David Spanovich wrote: As for the HMV 5a or 5b, the main difference involved the edge of the diaphragm, as you can see in these photos:
mmm... I cannot grasp the difference. Could you please re-post the pictures including red arrows pointing to the spots where the differences are to be observed? Thanks!

Regards,
António
Hi António:

If you look at the very edge of the diaphragms, you'll note that the way they are indented or "creased" is different. Here's what I mean:
HMV Soundbox Diaphragms.JPG

Based on what I've been told, and have listened to, personally, there was no advantage opting for the V-shaped indentation, versus the earlier one.
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Re: Strange soundbox in an HMV 109

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I have one exactly like the one in the first picture and it is a Songster.

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