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longest tonearm?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:43 pm
by anchorman
Other than an EMG/expert, which machines had long tonearms? I've seen an HMV 461 with tone arm that looked to be much longer than what we ordinarily find. The HMV 101 portable has a relatively long arm compared to many others I've seen, but the geometry does not look ideal.
Does anyone have information on this? I'm trying to find something suitable for a project I'm working on, without having to resort to fabricating an arm from scratch or modifying an existing arm.
Re: longest tonearm?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:27 pm
by poodling around
anchorman wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:43 pm
Other than an EMG/expert, which machines had long tonearms? I've seen an HMV 461 with tone arm that looked to be much longer than what we ordinarily find. The HMV 101 portable has a relatively long arm compared to many others I've seen, but the geometry does not look ideal.
Does anyone have information on this? I'm trying to find something suitable for a project I'm working on, without having to resort to fabricating an arm from scratch or modifying an existing arm.
Gilbert and Novaphonic gramophones have very long tonearms.
Re: longest tonearm?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:26 pm
by CarlosV
The HMV large reentrants also have long arms, like the HMV202, but they are not easy to find.
Re: longest tonearm?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:30 pm
by OrthoFan
Re: longest tonearm?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:52 pm
by anchorman
Ha!
Not quite what I’m after, but impressive all the same!
Re: longest tonearm?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:54 pm
by Watanabehi
Simply amazing!!!! But how about the sound?
Hideki
Re: longest tonearm?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:17 pm
by Inigo
We simply don't know yet... about the sound of the rare spiral tonearm. There seems to be no video of this machine.
Yes, the arm of a 461 it's the longest tonearm in this type (narrow orthophonic) I suppose. The 511 may likely have a similar arm. And in the thicker orthophonic style, HMV 193/4 and 202/3 have the longest arm. You might also use the arm of a Credenza, or the one of a Panatrope or a grand Viva Tonal console. These are the largest arms in this style, and although I don't know the Brunswick and the Columbia on my own, I bet they also have good tracking alignment.
Re: longest tonearm?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:17 pm
by JeffR1
This ?
I would have to contact the owner to find out the name, it's over in the Australian Facebook forums.
Re: longest tonearm?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:40 pm
by JohnM
JeffR1 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:17 pm
This ?
I would have to contact the owner to find out the name, it's over in the Australian Facebook forums.
That’s a Gilbert.
Re: longest tonearm?
Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:52 am
by Orchorsol
JohnM wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:40 pm
JeffR1 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:17 pm
This ?
I would have to contact the owner to find out the name, it's over in the Australian Facebook forums.
That’s a Gilbert.
They look as though they ought to be good performers with that extra length of tapered tonearm, but I've always found Gilberts rather poor.